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Post subject: Stuck :(
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:14 pm 
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Just defeated the boss near the mountain near Handan (the one with the puzzles) and obtained the mirror.
I head back to Hadan to learn that Lord Pingyuanhas gone to Shouchun, so I teleport to Souchun via taxi ticket....and I've no idea what to do next. :(

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These are the special items i currently have:
Bamboo shoot
Morning mirror
Prince mirror
Forbidden mirror
Demon's Crest
Fan Li's Seal
Tally
Stamp Book
Ancient Book
Thread Belt
Copper Mirror
Taigong Book
Miracle Water

Anything I'm missing to advance the story?


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 9:51 pm 
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I believe that you have to complete the trading part of the game first where you go from town to town trading various items that NPCs give you until you've obtain some kind of golden item. First of all, get the Shiitake Mushroom from the guy in the bar (in the first town if I remember correctly), not that Bamboo Shoot. Then you'll have to go town hopping while paying close attention to what each person want's to trade which item for. At the end, there's an older man who wants you to show him some kind of "very special" item. After that, the quest is finally completed. Sorry that I can't be anymore specific than this. Again, it's been awhile since I last played this game and have best-tested two other games since then, so my memory of it is a bit hazy at this point.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 3:58 am 
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Recca wrote:
I believe that you have to complete the trading part of the game first where you go from town to town trading various items that NPCs give you until you've obtain some kind of golden item. First of all, get the Shiitake Mushroom from the guy in the bar (in the first town if I remember correctly), not that Bamboo Shoot. Then you'll have to go town hopping while paying close attention to what each person want's to trade which item for. At the end, there's an older man who wants you to show him some kind of "very special" item. After that, the quest is finally completed. Sorry that I can't be anymore specific than this. Again, it's been awhile since I last played this game and have best-tested two other games since then, so my memory of it is a bit hazy at this point.

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OK, I've done the trading quest and received Primal Gold.
I've also gotten Ji-Chang to shoot down the extra sun in the village experiencing drought.
What next? I'm still not getting the story to advance.


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Post subject: Re: Stuck :(
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:31 am 
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umegamer wrote:
Spoiler! :
Just defeated the boss near the mountain near Handan (the one with the puzzles) and obtained the mirror.
I head back to Hadan to learn that Lord Pingyuanhas gone to Shouchun, so I teleport to Souchun via taxi ticket....and I've no idea what to do next. :(

edit:
These are the special items i currently have:
Bamboo shoot
Morning mirror
Prince mirror
Forbidden mirror
Demon's Crest
Fan Li's Seal
Tally
Stamp Book
Ancient Book
Thread Belt
Copper Mirror
Taigong Book
Miracle Water

Anything I'm missing to advance the story?
This is unedited. I just pulled it from a Japanese website by machine. It starts in one of the Handan visits. It may be a better translation than what I derived five years ago and help guide you on the right path. Having scanned through it, I know some of the readings are way off. It's been too long for me to recall specific triggers, and Hausen helped me find my way during my first draft. We all voted not to include any clues that were not already written in the Japanese script.

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■ Handan
▼ When I went to Lord Pingyuan's mansion, I was told that I went to Shou County.
 ▽ Get a letter and a taxi ticket.
  ▽ Taxi ticket is ruler (laugh)
■ Shou Spring
▼ Lord Chunshen's House

◆ Stamp
 Chunshen's House 2F Food Customer (36)
■ Shou County Southeastern Cave
▼ Herbs, Tamtan, Guardian
▼ Stick, Copper Tan, Gentan, Smoke Ball
▼ Iron Helmet, Thunder Ball, Kintan

▼ Go down the first stairs and go out to the front, a desk and a room of three treasure chests Go down and enter the back of the room where the poster is posted.
▼ Middle Boss Iwatetsuyama
▼ Ancient documents, rag fur, blue crystal, crystal

 ▽ Deliver ancient documents to Mr. Chunshen.
 ▽ We will head to Huashan.

◆ He Shi Bi-Ryumon ◆
■ Handan Castle
▼ Qin wants to exchange 15 castles with He Shi
 Bi ... ▽ Rin (Lin Xiangru) This is the historical event of the best show.
 ▽ Get a taxi ticket with Mr. He Shi Bi.
 ▽ Say leaves the party.
 ▽ Listen to the story of Luoyang's food customers.
■ Luoyang
▼ After hearing the rumors of Zhangha at the bar, I try to hire him at the bar owner.
▼ When you leave the bar, an event will occur and you will be friends.

◆ Stamp
 gambling customers (37)

▼ You can earn items at the gambling hall with a tally.

One at a rate of 100 gold.
Freebie
300 Sendan
500 Shintan
1000 Taxi ticket
5000 Dragon hole trip

■ Hakotani Seki (Luoyang side)
◆ Stamp
 Sekisho Mamoru (38)
■ Mountain road
▼ copper armor
because ▼ a mid-boss HanaSusumutsubame Otokogirai interesting challenge a member of the woman center (laughs)
 ▽ drop the Lao Tzu book

▼ elixir, Gen'ni, diamond
■ Hakotani Seki (Hata side)
◆ Stamp
 Sekisho Mamoru (39)
■ Xianyang
 Quiz Sennin (60 pieces)

▼ Grass in front of Zheng Guo's mansion Tenno's helmet, Nekomeishi (site on the left of the mansion)

◆ Stamp
 servant (40)
 Tradesman (41)
 Tradesman (42)
 Dozing student (43) )
 Housewife (44)
 Bar soldier (45)
 Tool shop guest (46)
 Inn Jijii (47)

▼ When you go to the castle, you will see the great event of Mr. Lin Xiangru.
 ▽ Continued when staying at an inn.

▼ The castle soldiers say, "Umeboshi, shiitake mushrooms, yarn pants, fishing rods, giant mottled eels ..." Shiritori ...

■ Mozi hermitage
▼ There are some things that must be thrown away to become a hermit.
 ▽ "greed and power, public ties, Do not be a video game or girl of photos do"
   ... c'mon ... era historical investigation is ....
■ Mt. Hua
▼ Genbu's armor, Kongo-zue, Shintan , Iron spear


Tamtan , Kintan ▼ Mirrors are arranged in the order of "Joka", "Fukugi", and "Shinno".
▼ When you go through the door, you will see the color of fear again.
 ▽ This time, unlike the old man Chen, there are no hints at all, so I have a hard time, but I will do my best to clear it. It's like a Rubik's cube (laughs)

▼ Old documents are useful from here.
 ▽ "Ninety-nine doors" is a "white" door because it is subtracted from one hundred.
 ▽ "Akeyo standing on the village" is a "child"
 ▽ In other words, you can open the white door with the bean hermit at the top.

▼ Middle boss Creator
 ▽ It is good to defeat with the batting center member.
▼ Rigid sign

▼ Finally, "Transfer the northern moon to white water"
 ▽ In other words, reflect your back on the fountain ... Turn under the treasure chest and turn your back on the fountain.
 ▽ You can take the sword of Damascus in the back. Let's take it from above.
■ Handan
▼ The appearance of the ramen shop has changed.
 ▽ A line at a ramen shop that is the best in China than the best ramen in Handan.


 Customer of ramen shop on the right of the stamp (48)

▼ When I went to see Mr. Pingyuan, I went straight to the castle.
 ▽ You can get the armor of the blue dragon.
 ▽ Say is growing. The eyes are a little bad (laughs)

▼ There is a village in the north of Handan, but it is still unmanned so there is no need to go.

▼ Go to see Obaba in the upper reaches of the Yellow River.
 ▽ Head by boat from the northwest canal.
 ▽ A cave near the western end of the Great Wall in the northwest of thistle.
■ Cave at the end of the north
▼ How to enter If the bill is 2/1, go down the stairs in the order of 2nd → 1st. Count as 1 or 2 from the stairs on the far left.

▼ White Tiger Armor
▼ Taxi Ticket, Shintan, Kongone, Meiou's Helmet
▼ Smoke Ball, Herb, Thunder Ball, Rigid Mark, Guardian Mark

▼ Obaba in the deepest part.
 ▽ Have Damascus break the seal.
 ▽ On the way home ...
▼ Middle boss soul-eating Shintan drop
 ▽ It is a very strong enemy, so if you can't win, you can escape with a taxi ticket. You can put it to sleep, so let's open the way from there.

■ South cave
▼ A cave to the south of the cave at the end of the north. There is Jijii at the entrance.
▼ Middle Boss Snake Dragon
 ▽ If you are equipped with the unsealed Damascus sword, you can win without any worries. On the contrary, even if you come when you don't have it, you can never win.
▼ Get a taxi ticket.
▼ After this, an event of Zhang Ha and Hien.

▼ Zhang Ha and Hien are gone, Lin Xiangru goes to Zhao's minister, and Jing Ke goes to Yasushi's acquaintance's house.
▼ Go to see Mozi Sennin.
■ Mozi Sennin's hermitage
▼ Sei becomes the Crown Prince of Qin and leaves.
 ▽ With the Damascus sword and the recipe ...
■ Dragon Gate
▼ Mamesennin is also away and challenges alone, so covertness cannot be used. There are no food customers. ↓ I may not have checked all the treasure chests.

▼ Gintan, Nekomeishi, Tamtan, Tenno Helmet, Kintan, Cloisonne Star Sword, Gintan, Rigid Mark, Shintan, Crystal Spear, Shintetsu Sword
▼ Sentan, Sentan, Tamtan
▼ Kintan, Tam Tan, Shintan
▼ Ruri, Sentan, Kuroshinju, Sentan, Suzaku's armor
▼ Ryujin's robe, Ryusen's sword, Ryujin's wings

▼ Clear to become a Ryusennin !!
 ▽ You can ride Kintoun.


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Post subject: Re: Stuck :(
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 5:51 am 
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I've read that guide (via Google translate)
Hard to make sense of it. :(

About this part though...
Spoiler! :
▼ Ancient documents, rag fur, blue crystal, crystal

 ▽ Deliver ancient documents to Mr. Chunshen.
 ▽ We will head to Huashan.

I'm Chunsen's home an Shouchun (top left house) but a maid is blocking the entrance.
"Servant: Everyone is busy"
What do I need to do to get her out of the way?


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 6:13 am 
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umegamer wrote:
I've read that guide (via Google translate)
Hard to make sense of it. :(

About this part though...
Spoiler! :
▼ Ancient documents, rag fur, blue crystal, crystal

 ▽ Deliver ancient documents to Mr. Chunshen.
 ▽ We will head to Huashan.

I'm Chunsen's home an Shouchun (top left house) but a maid is blocking the entrance.
"Servant: Everyone is busy"
What do I need to do to get her out of the way?
Did you find and clear a southeastern cave? Maybe someone else remembers.


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Post subject: Re: Stuck :(
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 7:51 am 
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Wildbill wrote:
umegamer wrote:
I've read that guide (via Google translate)
Hard to make sense of it. :(

About this part though...
Spoiler! :
▼ Ancient documents, rag fur, blue crystal, crystal

 ▽ Deliver ancient documents to Mr. Chunshen.
 ▽ We will head to Huashan.

I'm Chunsen's home an Shouchun (top left house) but a maid is blocking the entrance.
"Servant: Everyone is busy"
What do I need to do to get her out of the way?
Did you find and clear a southeastern cave? Maybe someone else remembers.


Yeah, that's where I fought the
Spoiler! :
Iron King https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKV2SgANNDk and found the Ancient Script.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:54 am 
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This seems like when you're meant to return the Ancient Script you recovered from the Iron King to Lord Chunshen in Shouchun. If you went to his house and couldn't go in...hm...based on the key items you have, it doesn't seem like you've met with Sun Tzu yet. Have you? You get a new party member afterward, so it's hard to forget. There's a cave smack-dab at the midpoint of Shouchun and Guiguzi's hermitage with a short dungeon that leads to it. That's my best guess! It's surprising that even none of us know for sure!

The trading and sun-shooting quests are needed to complete the story eventually, but that the point at which they're mandatory is a bit of a ways off.


A stamp for your book? Sorry, I don't have one.


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Post subject: Re: Stuck :(
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 11:25 am 
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Sherkel wrote:
This seems like when you're meant to return the Ancient Script you recovered from the Iron King to Lord Chunshen in Shouchun. If you went to his house and couldn't go in...hm...based on the key items you have, it doesn't seem like you've met with Sun Tzu yet. Have you? You get a new party member afterward, so it's hard to forget. There's a cave smack-dab at the midpoint of Shouchun and Guiguzi's hermitage with a short dungeon that leads to it. That's my best guess! It's surprising that even none of us know for sure!

The trading and sun-shooting quests are needed to complete the story eventually, but that the point at which they're mandatory is a bit of a ways off.


These places?
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Post subject: Re: Stuck :(
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 12:17 pm 
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ah..nevermind.
found the real sun tzu hideout, and got a new partner.
the maid is letting me pass through now.

thanks everyone.


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